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I'm pretty sure most of us knew that Roy has been just as
puzzled by this year's team as we have. This article
confirmed some of the many reasons I'm glad he's our
coach. Mainly, I think he has personal integrity and
that's big for me.
By Robbi Pickeral
robbi.pickeral@newsobserver.com
Posted: Tuesday, Mar. 09, 2010
CHAPEL HILL - Less than a year after earning his second
national championship and publishing his autobiography
"Hard Work," North Carolina coach Roy Williams is
stunned, angry and saddened that he's still trying to
figure out how to make this season's team work hard.
"The most significant thing to me is that I haven't been
able to find the right answers to a lot of things as a
coach," Williams said last week, sitting behind his
notes-topped desk at the Smith Center. "And more than
anything, I haven't been able to get this team to play
with the intensity that all of our teams have ever played
with. And that's the thing that's hurt our team, and on a
personal basis, it's bothered me more than anything,
because every team I've ever had played really hard."
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/03/09/1302277/a-
season-most-disappointing.html
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Oddly, the very information my "source" disclosed to me following the 100th anniversary...among other information...like coach stands behind LDII and another player has had his head up his...well, this goes to the other thread I suppose.
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Wait. Is your source saying that Roy is cool with Larry but that it is another player that is working Roy's last nerve? Who? Who?
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Yeah, that's it in a nutshell but shhh, don't say anything...you see, as two posters think they can just put out stuff without any information and its gospel but yet I volunteered my source was a former player that talked with Roy at the 100th...but shh, my information is bad and somone elses is bona fide... 
that and the fact that Roy is still teaching in March what they should have learned last October/November...
again, exactly what my guy told me word for word and here comes Robbie Pickeral from Observer several days after my post with the same info, guess our two heros here abouts better get to questioning Pickeral's "source"...huh?
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tom79 wrote:
Yeah, that's it in a nutshell but shhh, don't say anything...you see, as two posters think they can just put out stuff without any information and its gospel but yet I volunteered my source was a former player that talked with Roy at the 100th...but shh, my information is bad and somone elses is bona fide...
that and the fact that Roy is still teaching in March what they should have learned last October/November...
again, exactly what my guy told me word for word and here comes Robbie Pickeral from Observer several days after my post with the same info, guess our two heros here abouts better get to questioning Pickeral's "source"...huh? |
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Your dose of crow will need a lot of BBQ sauce Tom.
Drew is gone
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so we ask yet again, name your source...or please stop putting forward rumors you got off IC.
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Dex?
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Tom, I am not sure why, unless it is your known dislike of JJ, that you are trying to come off so high and mighty about this Drew thing. I have ALWAYS stated that I have no "Inner Circle" ties to UNC Basketball Program, or any other. I make no claims at inside knowledge, and never have. I have stated clearly that a poster on another board who seems quite well respected has posited that Drew and Roy aren't meshing and that Larry is gone at the end of the season.
To disagree is one thing, to act the way you have been about this, is another.
FWIW, I hope your UNNAMED source is right, and the poster on another board is wrong.
As stated before, I hope Larry stays, If he is listening to Roy, and If Drew wants to be here.
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Mindforms, I get the N&O and read the article too. I enjoyed it and thought it gave good (and accurate) insight into this year.
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Nice read MF. I am surprised that Roy didn't pull the last 5 guys off the bench and put them into several games this year due to lack of effort. I believe Dean Smith would have done that exact thing. If the first 5 aren't playing hard, and then the 2nd five got a chance and didn't play hard - I firmly believe Dean would have asked the last 5 if they would play hard, and if they said "Yes Coach!!", would have put them in the game.
Am I wrong about that?
Additionally, we have had some guys who shot the ball very well in HS come into UNC and struggle. This goes back to the Dean and Gut days. Will Graves is only the latest of those. Dean and Gut used to tinker with the guys form, and it didn't always yield (fast) positive results. I don't know if Roy and Staff tinkered with Will's shot - I do know UNC Coaches have done it in the past with some players, and with poor results for a year or more before their tinkering paid off. Will shot a higher 3 point percentage in HS than Wayne E. did. It hasn't panned out in Chapel Hill though.
Finally, Tom, I fail to see anything in that article that backs you up on Drew not transferring. I'm not saying he is gone, but I do fail to see what you found so reaffirming in that read.
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FullOnShred wrote:
To disagree is one thing, to act the way you have been about this, is another.
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He gives money to UNC shred, he's got it like that. 
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FullOnShred wrote:
Nice read MF. I am surprised that Roy didn't pull the last 5 guys off the bench and put then into several games this year due to lack of effort. I believe Dean Smith would have done that exact thing. If the first 5 aren't playing hard, and then the 2nd five got a chance and didn't play hard - I firmly believe Dean would have asked the last 5 if they would play hard, and if they said "Yes Coach!!", would have put them in the game.
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That's exactly what I was hoping he'd do in the Duke game. Our starters weren't competing, they were accepting everything that was happening to them and were lazy. If there is one thing I can't stand it's a lack of effort. I mean if you simply aren't good enough that's one thing but at least act like you care. This team hasn't acted that way all year long and it's evident by their record.
I hope we get rid of the bad apples on this team because UNC should never have a team like this.
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FoS my interpretation was that at least the kid and coach are talking, getting along, interacting... I think Roy cares about him and Drew loves the Hill and this team.
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Roy loves his kids, there is 0% doubt about that. He loves them, his relationship w/ them is very strong.
I'm betting that Roy is more passionate than ever about helping LD become the player he can be. Who is LD going to play for that will care more for him as a person and work harder to teach him the game? IMHO that person doesn't exist.
Maybe he will leave, maybe not. I hope he makes the best decision for him, with Roy's help and his parents' help. We'll know soon enough.
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The great mystery of 2009-2010 that we'll never understand is how this group of players could, in the final analysis, care so very little about giving it their best effort.
The best guess has to be some evil mixture, including lack of leadership on the floor, loss of confidence, injuries, and the personalities of this particular group. Add in the changes of position Roy mentioned in that article...
My oh my, imagine a George Lynch added to this group. There would have been blood on the floor, but they would have brought real passion to the games.
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Well, George would have played hard. I don't know about the rest of them. George may have gotten frustrated with them and quit the team.
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My best guess is the lack of maturity was the undoing of this young team.
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Lack of heart and desire killed this team...
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Tom, unless I missed something, or unless we are reading entirely different articles, the ONLY mention of LDII in that piece was that Roy thought Dex was going to play PG his Sr. year in HS, therefore giving him some prep for backing Larry at the PG spot at UNC. That's it. Nothing else about LDII in the article I linked for MF.
From the Linked Piece:
"Strickland, a shooting guard who committed when he was a junior, was slated to play point guard his senior year at Elizabeth, N.J., St. Patrick High - which was why Williams thought he could back up starting Tar Heels point guard Larry Drew II this season. But then Duke recruit Kyrie Irving, a point guard, transferred into Strickland's high school, keeping him at shooting guard and from learning the ballhandling position."
FWIW, I think George Lynch would have quietly taken these guys to the side, given them a steely look in the eyes, and told them to get it together and do what Coach tells you - or else. And I think most of them would have heard him.
Edited by FullOnShred on March 11 2010 at 4:32pm
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